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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Tue May 27, 2014 10:30 pm

Our proposal has been duly presented to the Shraman Conference, as only place of peace negotiations between the involved parties.

Its content is simple: the disputed island will be kept under Kennyland sovereignty, but as an administrative special zone; the Dromodian people living there will be granted with special freedoms for their own cultural and traditional heritage; the island will be completely neutralized, with no military forces deployed there; all the countries involved will officially guarantee its security and the status quo against any kind of aggression or threat; international trade and investments will be completely free; a special Commission, with representatives of all the countries involved, will oversee the respect of the Treaty; a Dromodian special delegate will particularly oversee the respect of the freedoms accorded to the Dromodian people.

Furthermore, we invite all the participants to these informal talks to directly participate to the Shraman Conference, since we find unuseful to split the discussion in two different parts.
We would be glad to welcome the representatives of all your countries.
Thank you.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Tue May 27, 2014 10:52 pm



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Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Mr. Tarajani Diplomat, we find there is no confusing having two peace summits at the same time since what we are doing here are behind the scenes in support to the one being led by your nation in Shrama which is the public one. And for that, we find it imperative that with no breakthrough achieved in the Shraman Conference due to posturing of nations which must promote their nationalistic ideals before their citizens is making it hard to achieve any compromise for the settlement of the dispute.
With regards to your presented proposal Mr. Tarajani Diplomat, you've said that your proposal is 'neutralization of Jillin Island' but when you outlined it before us, we see no neutralization on the disputed territory but rather just assurances of freedom for Dromodian ethnics in the island. Which doesn't address the root cause of this dispute, the sovereignty.
If I am wrong Your Excellency, may you explain further your proposal in Shraman?


* hands over a series of documents to the Tarajani diplomat *

Disputed Territory of Jillin Island: OPTION 1 (NEUTRALIZATION)

Citing the commendable internationalizing of dispute the People's Republic of Dromoda made to finally pressure the Monarchy of Kennyland to speak up on the matter and resolve the long simmering dispute once and for all to bring long lasting peace in the Asian Continent and neighboring regions, it is in our belief that we must seek the WA Government's intervention,

Whereas, citing that it is the duty of the WA Government to ensure peace and stability in the world under the WA Constitutition, it is therefore imperative that the WA Council must exercise its powers due to the actions of the directly involved nations, particularly Dromoda and Kennyland, where the latter continues to remain silent while the entire world is looking for a diplomatic solution and the former continues to maintain peace despite its obvious loosening patience of the dispute.

With these, it is now high time for the WA Council to authorize the WA Armed Forces, to bring peacekeeping neutral forced in Jillin Island, the WA Department of Security & Justice, to bring civilian peace and order in Jillin Island, and the WA Humanitarian Organization, to bring humanitarian assistance in Jillin Island, thus temporarily making the disputed Jillin Island under the mandate of the WA Government.

This neutral status quo must be maintained until such time that Kennyland and Dromoda becomes ready to peacefully and diplomatically resolve the matter through bilateral talks or through arbitration before the WA Court of Justice. And any external party violating this status quo shall be considered a crime against the international communitt through the WA Government and blatant violation of the WA Constitution who mandated the WA Council to maintain peace and stability in the world.

Disputed Territory of Jillin Island: OPTION 2 (EQUITABLE DIVISION)

Citing the reluctance of the Monarchy of Kennyland to voice their position on their own, while the People's Republic of Dromoda prepares itself to enforce its authority over the disputed Jillin Island, the possibility of miscalculations is so high that could trigger an armed conflict. And if a Neutralization of Jillin Island is not enough, we shall consider having a negotiated equitable division of the disputed Jillin Island.


On this solution, the People's Republic of Dromoda could settle itself by halving less than half of the northern portion of the disputed Jillin Island, while the Monarchy of Kennyland could also settle itself by having more than half of the southern portion of the disputed Jillin Island. In support to this, we did the honors to craft a possible agreement that could be reach out and agreed by both claiming parties over the disputed Jillin Island.

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TREATY OF PEACE BETWEEN DROMODA AND KENNYLAND

1) Both Parties agree to settle their claims over the Jillin Island in exchange of recognizing their national sovereignty and independence to exercise sovereign authority over the agreed division (as per the picture) over the Jillin Island.

2) Both Parties agree that the People's Republic of Dromoda shall have the sovereignty over the upper portion of the Jillin Island (as per the picture) and as such shall have the freedom to exercises authority over that portion which shall be universally recognized as its own inherent territory and part of the People's Republic of Dromoda.

3) Both Parties agree that the Monarchy of Kennyland shall have the sovereignty over the lower portion of the Jillin Island (as per the picture) and as such shall have the freedom to exercises authority over that portion which shall be universally recognized as its own inherent territory and part of the Monarchy of Kennyland.

4) Both Parties agree to renounce any claims perpetually over the Jillin Island as part of the equitable division over Jillin Island as stipulated under this Treaty.

5) Both Parties agree that this Treaty shall serve as the foundation of their eventual establishment of friendly diplomatic relations and exchange of diplomatic missions and ambassadors to formally establish friendship between Dromoda and Kennyland.

Signatories:

Representative of the People's Republic of Dromoda
Representative of the Monarchy of Kennyland

Witnesses:

Representative of the Kingdom of Ireland
Representative of the Empire of Tokugawa
Representative of the Empire of Articmainia
Representative of the Confederacy of Kaevi
Representative of the Republic of Havenburgh
Representative of the Federation of Antanares
Representative of the Kingdom of New Tarajan
Representative of the Empire of Great Eurussia
Representative of the Comrades Union of Ivania
Representative of the Social Democracy of New Zealand
Representative of the Socialist Commonwealth of Eurasia

WA Government:

Representative of the President of the WA Council
Representative of the Speaker of the WA Parliament
Representative of the Chief Justice of the WA Court of Justice


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On this setup, even if the Kennyland Government refuses to voice out their position on their own, they could be legally represented by the Ivanian Government provided that they have the evidence of authority to sign the agreement in behalf of the Kennyland Government. And the same thing goes for the People's Republic of Dromoda.

And to further bring legal weight and neutrality and fairness to the document, we can seek as well the vote of the WA Council to become the neutral witness to the agreement by way of signing this Treaty of Peace before the members of the WA Council, WA Parliament, and the WA Court of Justice, to show the world and the future generations that nations can work together, despite all different opinions, in the name of world peace.
On the other hand Mr. Tarajani Diplomat, how do you find these consensus reach solutions by the ambassadors and diplomats in this Moscow Peace Summit? May we know your opinion since we have also reached a conclusion for a neutralization of Jillin Island under the mandate of the WA Government which we find here more neutral since it not guaranteed by individual countries but rather the WA Government itself?
And also we are glad to inform you with which you can also send to our high ranking officials in the Shraman Conference that the People's Republic of Dromoda has officially accepted and agreed on Option 2 which only awaits the side of the Kennyland Government!"
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Tue May 27, 2014 11:03 pm

First of all, we wish to say that it's impossible to achieve a breakthrough in a diplomatic conference on such a delicate and difficult issue soon after its beginning, Your Excellency, and we are sure you would understand this truth.

About our proposal: as mediators in a negotiation, we need to address the concerns of both parties, not of one side only.
Thus, we created a compromise between the Dromodian concerns to protect its own people, allowing them to live with their freedom, and the Kennyland concerns over the sovereignty of the island, which we cannot pretend to ignore, exactly like we cannot pretend to ignore Dromodian concerns. At the same time, we made it impossible to anyone to threatening the Dromodian ethnics in the island, or even Dromodian national security from the island itself.
This is the ratio behind our compromise.

About the documents you're showing us:

1) The first proposal would seriously harm the rights of sovereignty of Kennyland over the island, and we are pretty sure that the Kennyland government, nor Ivania in its representation, will accept it. Although there is an international disputer over the island, the Council cannot unilaterally decide to send forces in it without the explicit consent of the Kennyland government or its Ivanian representative.

2) We already discussed with the Dromodian government about feasibility of this option.
As we have explained to them, for us the divisions it's feasible but, in order to avoid future conflict, our best hopes are on the proposal we have made.
Eventually, we are trying also to merge the two options, through the creation of a northern administrative province with a Dromodian oversee.

But, in any case, I repeat: it is important to address the concerns of both parties, if we wish to find a viable and durable solution.
And this is what we are doing in Shraman.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Tue May 27, 2014 11:44 pm



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Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Thank you for your clarifications Your Excellency. However, Mr. Tarajani Diplomat, let us admit it, the pressure on the official leaders negotiating in the Shraman Conference has indeed made any compromise beach reached harder. And if not for these back door talks and behind the scene Peace Summit, we can never have the official acceptance and agreement of the hardliners in the People's Republic of Dromoda in one of our proposed solutions, and that for itself as a victory for all our efforts of diplomacy and indeed a breakthrough. And I must apologize to our colleagues that we should not even waste time on this kind of debate, and instead focus on finding a long lasting amicable settlement for all.
About our proposal: as mediators in a negotiation, we need to address the concerns of both parties, not of one side only.
Thus, we created a compromise between the Dromodian concerns to protect its own people, allowing them to live with their freedom, and the Kennyland concerns over the sovereignty of the island, which we cannot pretend to ignore, exactly like we cannot pretend to ignore Dromodian concerns. At the same time, we made it impossible to anyone to threatening the Dromodian ethnics in the island, or even Dromodian national security from the island itself.
This is the ratio behind our compromise.

"Mr. Tarajani Diplomat, we deeply commend your efforts for this proposed resolution. And your clarification for addressing two sides is not seen on your commendable proposal. Because it doesn't address the disputed sovereignty of the Jillin Island. Your proposal is addressing only the sovereignty of Kennyland but not that of Dromoda, which it badly wants to be resolved, in which your proposal only promises protection of freedom which Dromoda itself could give if it forcefully retakes the territory. Isn't it? 
But about that Mr. Tarajani Diplomat, we have told you that the Dromodian Government, through their very own Foreign Minister here, Mr. Kai Enlai, sitting with us right now and listening to us, has endorsed and approved and accepted the consensus proposal here in this Summit where they are willing to equitable divide Jillin Island where the People's Republic of Dromoda will be settled with a smaller northern portion of the territory while the Monarchy of Kennyland can live in peace and harmony with its own deafening silence having a much larger portion of the dispute territory. What can you say about this Your Excellency?"
About the documents you're showing us:

1) The first proposal would seriously harm the rights of sovereignty of Kennyland over the island, and we are pretty sure that the Kennyland government, nor Ivania in its representation, will accept it. Although there is an international disputer over the island, the Council cannot unilaterally decide to send forces in it without the explicit consent of the Kennyland government or its Ivanian representative.




"Your Excellency, with Option 1 Neutralization under the WA Government, there is indeed a violation of sovereignty on the part of Kennyland, only on the disputed territory. Remember, it is disputed, unresolved. Not to mention their own silence on the issue from the very beginning. Don't you think it is imperative for the WA Government to invoke its privileges under the WA Constitution to maintain peace and stability in that part of the world? Let us admit it, it is still questionable if there is indeed a violation of Kennyland's sovereignty over Jillin Island since sovereignty over it is still disputed by Dromoda. On that note, isn't it a small risk and price to pay for a more peaceful and stable world?"

2) We already discussed with the Dromodian government about feasibility of this option.
As we have explained to them, for us the divisions it's feasible but, in order to avoid future conflict, our best hopes are on the proposal we have made.
Eventually, we are trying also to merge the two options, through the creation of a northern administrative province with a Dromodian oversee.


"With Option 2 - Equitable Division, Your Excellency, we have explained this to you already. But having a northern administrative province with just a Dromodian overseen administration would be acceptable to the People's Republic of Dromoda who just accepted and even endorsed the consensus proposal here to split the territory into two where Dromoda will settle for a little territory in exchange of peace with Kennyland? We had already a breakthrough on the Dromodian side willing to settle for less? Why not wait for the Kennyland Government to finally share their opinion and position on the matter.

Thank you very much for addressing your concerns, Mr. Tarajani Diplomat."
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 12:02 am

Honestly, Your Excellency, we find very hard to hear such words about the violation of national sovereignty brought by Eurussia, which always refused any kind of intervention against its own interests, even when the international peace and stability risked to be undermined, hiding itself behind the words "national sovereignty". Thus, we find unacceptable, and even immoral, what you said about the opportunity to use the WA Government powers to deliberately break the sovereignty of Kennyland without even asking to its government for its full consensus.
Consequently, we are forced to keep stay on our own positions.

We will continue, any way, to find a diplomatic solution in the appropriate place, the Shraman Conference. We are sure that a solution will be found there between Dromoda and Kennyland without doing such a terrible breach of the constitutional rights Eurussia itself always pretended to defend.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 12:28 am



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Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Mr. Tarajani Diplomat, as much as I wish to respect you. Please extend the same thing to us. We are not hear to listen to your lessons as if we, professional diplomats here, do not know what we are doing. We are not hear to discuss the differences of our two nations but rather immediately resolve the escalating tensions over the Jillin Island.
We cannot also understand why Your Excellency continue to insist on the appropriateness of the Shraman Conference as it is the best place to address the tensions. We are also offended that you can't appreciate the fact that we, diplomats here, are exerting efforts to find a breakthrough that seems to be hard to achieve in the Shaman Conference, which we understand, since it is a publicized peace talks.
And now, we feel unfortunate for Your Excellency if you can't accept the fact that we are able to make the Dromodian Government agree on a possible solution to the simmering dispute which even made you work and revise your proposals. We need no commendation nor recognition for our efforts, and for us, we had a breakthrough and we are contented with it. As diplomats, we are happy to help our leaders achieve settlement."
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 12:35 am

We are all diplomats, Your Excellency. There's no need to keep repeating it.
Nor there's the need to repeat that there's a stalemate in Shraman, which is obviously not true.
We commend the intentions of Eurussia; but we cannot avoid to remind you that, together with Dromoda, there's also another side, whose constitutional rights would be violated by your proposal until it will not express its consent.
What we said is not about the differences between our countries: this is a totally different issue, and we are reknown for our professionalism, thus not bringing in inappropriate places non-relevant issues.
For us it is simply hard to understand how the supposed paladin of constitutional rights and of national sovereignty could even think about saying that a breach to such rights should be necessary, since every time other countries made the same reasoning in specific situations Eurussia reacted with a sense of outrage. Thus, we are sure you'll understand our own feelings, right now.
And, about the Shraman Conference, for the last time: it is the only recognized place for negotiations. It is quiet obvious that we keep to refer to it as such.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 1:03 am



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Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Thank you then Your Excellency. In that sense we will simply respect and understand your position. But based on the consesus here, the most neutral and feasible option to resolve the dispute is Option 1 which is Neutralization of Jillin Island under the WA Government. This is based on the concurrence among our colleagues here."

Disputed Territory of Jillin Island: OPTION 1 (NEUTRALIZATION)

Citing the commendable internationalizing of dispute the People's Republic of Dromoda made to finally pressure the Monarchy of Kennyland to speak up on the matter and resolve the long simmering dispute once and for all to bring long lasting peace in the Asian Continent and neighboring regions, it is in our belief that we must seek the WA Government's intervention,

Whereas, citing that it is the duty of the WA Government to ensure peace and stability in the world under the WA Constitutition, it is therefore imperative that the WA Council must exercise its powers due to the actions of the directly involved nations, particularly Dromoda and Kennyland, where the latter continues to remain silent while the entire world is looking for a diplomatic solution and the former continues to maintain peace despite its obvious loosening patience of the dispute.

With these, it is now high time for the WA Council to authorize the WA Armed Forces, to bring peacekeeping neutral forced in Jillin Island, the WA Department of Security & Justice, to bring civilian peace and order in Jillin Island, and the WA Humanitarian Organization, to bring humanitarian assistance in Jillin Island, thus temporarily making the disputed Jillin Island under the mandate of the WA Government.

This neutral status quo must be maintained until such time that Kennyland and Dromoda becomes ready to peacefully and diplomatically resolve the matter through bilateral talks or through arbitration before the WA Court of Justice. And any external party violating this status quo shall be considered a crime against the international communitt through the WA Government and blatant violation of the WA Constitution who mandated the WA Council to maintain peace and stability in the world.

Disputed Territory of Jillin Island: OPTION 2 (EQUITABLE DIVISION)

Citing the reluctance of the Monarchy of Kennyland to voice their position on their own, while the People's Republic of Dromoda prepares itself to enforce its authority over the disputed Jillin Island, the possibility of miscalculations is so high that could trigger an armed conflict. And if a Neutralization of Jillin Island is not enough, we shall consider having a negotiated equitable division of the disputed Jillin Island.


On this solution, the People's Republic of Dromoda could settle itself by halving less than half of the northern portion of the disputed Jillin Island, while the Monarchy of Kennyland could also settle itself by having more than half of the southern portion of the disputed Jillin Island. In support to this, we did the honors to craft a possible agreement that could be reach out and agreed by both claiming parties over the disputed Jillin Island.

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TREATY OF PEACE BETWEEN DROMODA AND KENNYLAND

1) Both Parties agree to settle their claims over the Jillin Island in exchange of recognizing their national sovereignty and independence to exercise sovereign authority over the agreed division (as per the picture) over the Jillin Island.

2) Both Parties agree that the People's Republic of Dromoda shall have the sovereignty over the upper portion of the Jillin Island (as per the picture) and as such shall have the freedom to exercises authority over that portion which shall be universally recognized as its own inherent territory and part of the People's Republic of Dromoda.

3) Both Parties agree that the Monarchy of Kennyland shall have the sovereignty over the lower portion of the Jillin Island (as per the picture) and as such shall have the freedom to exercises authority over that portion which shall be universally recognized as its own inherent territory and part of the Monarchy of Kennyland.

4) Both Parties agree to renounce any claims perpetually over the Jillin Island as part of the equitable division over Jillin Island as stipulated under this Treaty.

5) Both Parties agree that this Treaty shall serve as the foundation of their eventual establishment of friendly diplomatic relations and exchange of diplomatic missions and ambassadors to formally establish friendship between Dromoda and Kennyland.

Signatories:

Representative of the People's Republic of Dromoda
Representative of the Monarchy of Kennyland

Witnesses:

Representative of the Kingdom of Ireland
Representative of the Empire of Tokugawa
Representative of the Empire of Articmainia
Representative of the Confederacy of Kaevi
Representative of the Republic of Havenburgh
Representative of the Federation of Antanares
Representative of the Kingdom of New Tarajan
Representative of the Empire of Great Eurussia
Representative of the Comrades Union of Ivania
Representative of the Social Democracy of New Zealand
Representative of the Socialist Commonwealth of Eurasia

WA Government:

Representative of the President of the WA Council
Representative of the Speaker of the WA Parliament
Representative of the Chief Justice of the WA Court of Justice


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On this setup, even if the Kennyland Government refuses to voice out their position on their own, they could be legally represented by the Ivanian Government provided that they have the evidence of authority to sign the agreement in behalf of the Kennyland Government. And the same thing goes for the People's Republic of Dromoda.

And to further bring legal weight and neutrality and fairness to the document, we can seek as well the vote of the WA Council to become the neutral witness to the agreement by way of signing this Treaty of Peace before the members of the WA Council, WA Parliament, and the WA Court of Justice, to show the world and the future generations that nations can work together, despite all different opinions, in the name of world peace.
"However, Dromodian Foreign Minister Kai Enlai has made its decision to accept and endorse the proposed Option 2 which is the equitable division of the disputed Jillin Island. And we are just waiting for the official position of the Kennyland Government on the proposal so we could finally move forward into a settlement or work for another compromised proposal for both Parties.
We wish to hear more the opinions of Your Excellencies. Or if Kennyland remains silent on the issue, Option 2 won't be feasible. But to end the dispute, don't you think we should just simply submit Option 1 to the WA Council for deliberation and adoption?
I believe we should give Kennyland a 24 hour ultimatum. Now. Since Dromoda has made its position. And if the ultimatum lapses, we should push for Option 1, as last resort to end all escalation of dispute.
Wha are your views Your Excellencies?"
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  Federation of Antanares on Wed May 28, 2014 1:17 am

Great Eurussia wrote:On that note, isn't it a small risk and price to pay for a more peaceful and stable world?

"It's a too high price for the peace and for a stable world. Antanares will not pay this price and we will do everything is necessary to defend the territory of Kennyland, that, now, it's a territory of Kennyland, disputed or not. For the resolution of problem like a national sovereignty exists the Court of Justice or the International Peace Conference to create a special court for the case and not unilateral intervention. "
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 1:39 am



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Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Thank you Ambassador and we respect your opinion and position on the matter. And unfortunately, with the same attitude of defending this side and the other one defending the other side, is causing further tensions and escalations. Hence, we offer and agreed into a consensus to forward such proposal like in Option 1.
And again, it is commendable that the People's Republic of Dromoda that it has controlled itself and patiences while being blatantly disregarded by Kennyland with its silence. I do believe such silence is just prolonging these unnecessary tensions as Dromoda has officially accepted Option 2.
That is why we are seeking your views if we should now give the 24 hour ultimatum to Kennyland to agree or disagree to the position of Dromoda, or else we should just push through with Option 1 and give it a try to maintain peace."
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 1:44 am

The sole idea of sending an ultimatum to Kennyland is deeply against any concept of peaceful solution.
Diplomacy is not a matter of minutes.
Also, wasn't this only a meeting of diplomats? As such, this meeting has no authority of issuing any kind of ultimatum.
If you wish to make further proposals, submit them to the Shraman Conference, as recognized by all the Parties involved. Otherwise, please, we ask you to respectfully stay aside of this situation and let diplomacy continue.
Thank you.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 1:49 am



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Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Mr. Tarajani Diplomat, that is precisely the point. We keep on doing diplomacy and talking and talking while everyone is doing the military posturing on the ground that escalates the tensions. Is this the peace you are talking about?
Also, Your Excellency, our proposed ultimatum is not as if we are going to war with Kennyland if the deadline lapse. It is a peaceful way of asking Kennyland to speak up since in this Moscow Peace Summit, we have found breakthrough and those are Options 1 and Options 2 and we intend to discuss and try those. Since if we continue to wait for Kennyland, we will achieve nothing but simply prolonging the agony and possibility of miscalculations.
That is why we are seeking your views if we should now give the 24 hour ultimatum to Kennyland to agree or disagree to the position of Dromoda, or else we should just push through with Option 1 and give it a try to maintain peace."
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 1:54 am

Honestly, Your Excellency, the term ultimatum means ultimatum. Exactly as diplomacy means talking. Alternatively, we do not know if Eurussia prefers another concept of diplomacy, but this is the only reasonable one.
Do not try to change the unchangeable.

Now, to proceed with Option 1 without the explicit consent of Kennyland is unacceptable, it's a break of the WA Constitution, and the negation of all Eurussia itself claimed for years.

No ultimatum can be issued in this meeting, nor here can be implemented such agreements. Alternatively, this would be a State meeting, which is not.

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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 2:02 am



Minister of Foreign Affairs of Eurussia
Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Your Excellency, we deeply respect your position. And we will continue to respect. And I would like to remind you that you cannot dictate the outcome of this Peace Summit nor do I since this is a consensus based diplomacy. We cannot wait for Kennyland forever while watching the world burn itself without doing and even trying all possible options.
That is why we are seeking your views if we should now give the 24 hour ultimatum to Kennyland to agree or disagree to the position of Dromoda, or else we should just push through with Option 1 and give it a try to maintain peace."
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 2:04 am

The world will burn only if this ultimatum will be issued.
And I wish to remind you that this is not Peace Summit, but a simple meeting between diplomats.
Your behavior is deeply disrespectful of the efforts New Tarajan and all the other countries are doing in Shraman.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 2:07 am



Minister of Foreign Affairs of Eurussia
Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Please Your Excellency, we are in support to the Shraman Conference and what you keep on insisting that being there is right nor being here is wrong is simply not helpful. If Shraman Conference cannot find a solution, we are doing it for you and now at least we were able to receive the approval of the People's Republic of Dromoda finally agreeing and endorsing Option 2 and we are just waiting for the official position of Kennyland so we could all move on. And for that the 24 hour ultimatum will be helpful."
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 2:11 am

We are sorry, Your Excellency. But we do not see how dividing in two summits could be helpful; nor how it could be useful or deemed to be diplomatic to send an ultimatum to enforce a solution on a sovereign country.

New Tarajan will officially dissociate itself from such an ultimatum, which we find illegal and unnecessary.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 2:17 am



Minister of Foreign Affairs of Eurussia
Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Again Your Excellency, we do not seek any recognition nor commendation for our efforts since we want to help our leaders in Shraman Conference. But we can be proud of that we were able to produce at least two possible options to resolve the dispute that seem to be acceptable and feasible accorsing to our colleagues here.
I hope you will look at them once more,


[size=38]Disputed Territory of Jillin Island: OPTION 1 (NEUTRALIZATION)

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Citing the commendable internationalizing of dispute the People's Republic of Dromoda made to finally pressure the Monarchy of Kennyland to speak up on the matter and resolve the long simmering dispute once and for all to bring long lasting peace in the Asian Continent and neighboring regions, it is in our belief that we must seek the WA Government's intervention,

Whereas, citing that it is the duty of the WA Government to ensure peace and stability in the world under the WA Constitutition, it is therefore imperative that the WA Council must exercise its powers due to the actions of the directly involved nations, particularly Dromoda and Kennyland, where the latter continues to remain silent while the entire world is looking for a diplomatic solution and the former continues to maintain peace despite its obvious loosening patience of the dispute.

With these, it is now high time for the WA Council to authorize the WA Armed Forces, to bring peacekeeping neutral forced in Jillin Island, the WA Department of Security & Justice, to bring civilian peace and order in Jillin Island, and the WA Humanitarian Organization, to bring humanitarian assistance in Jillin Island, thus temporarily making the disputed Jillin Island under the mandate of the WA Government.

This neutral status quo must be maintained until such time that Kennyland and Dromoda becomes ready to peacefully and diplomatically resolve the matter through bilateral talks or through arbitration before the WA Court of Justice. And any external party violating this status quo shall be considered a crime against the international communitt through the WA Government and blatant violation of the WA Constitution who mandated the WA Council to maintain peace and stability in the world.

Disputed Territory of Jillin Island: OPTION 2 (EQUITABLE DIVISION)

Citing the reluctance of the Monarchy of Kennyland to voice their position on their own, while the People's Republic of Dromoda prepares itself to enforce its authority over the disputed Jillin Island, the possibility of miscalculations is so high that could trigger an armed conflict. And if a Neutralization of Jillin Island is not enough, we shall consider having a negotiated equitable division of the disputed Jillin Island.


On this solution, the People's Republic of Dromoda could settle itself by halving less than half of the northern portion of the disputed Jillin Island, while the Monarchy of Kennyland could also settle itself by having more than half of the southern portion of the disputed Jillin Island. In support to this, we did the honors to craft a possible agreement that could be reach out and agreed by both claiming parties over the disputed Jillin Island.

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TREATY OF PEACE BETWEEN DROMODA AND KENNYLAND

1) Both Parties agree to settle their claims over the Jillin Island in exchange of recognizing their national sovereignty and independence to exercise sovereign authority over the agreed division (as per the picture) over the Jillin Island.

2) Both Parties agree that the People's Republic of Dromoda shall have the sovereignty over the upper portion of the Jillin Island (as per the picture) and as such shall have the freedom to exercises authority over that portion which shall be universally recognized as its own inherent territory and part of the People's Republic of Dromoda.

3) Both Parties agree that the Monarchy of Kennyland shall have the sovereignty over the lower portion of the Jillin Island (as per the picture) and as such shall have the freedom to exercises authority over that portion which shall be universally recognized as its own inherent territory and part of the Monarchy of Kennyland.

4) Both Parties agree to renounce any claims perpetually over the Jillin Island as part of the equitable division over Jillin Island as stipulated under this Treaty.

5) Both Parties agree that this Treaty shall serve as the foundation of their eventual establishment of friendly diplomatic relations and exchange of diplomatic missions and ambassadors to formally establish friendship between Dromoda and Kennyland.

Signatories:

Representative of the People's Republic of Dromoda
Representative of the Monarchy of Kennyland

Witnesses:

Representative of the Kingdom of Ireland
Representative of the Empire of Tokugawa
Representative of the Empire of Articmainia
Representative of the Confederacy of Kaevi
Representative of the Republic of Havenburgh
Representative of the Federation of Antanares
Representative of the Kingdom of New Tarajan
Representative of the Empire of Great Eurussia
Representative of the Comrades Union of Ivania
Representative of the Social Democracy of New Zealand
Representative of the Socialist Commonwealth of Eurasia

WA Government:

Representative of the President of the WA Council
Representative of the Speaker of the WA Parliament
Representative of the Chief Justice of the WA Court of Justice


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On this setup, even if the Kennyland Government refuses to voice out their position on their own, they could be legally represented by the Ivanian Government provided that they have the evidence of authority to sign the agreement in behalf of the Kennyland Government. And the same thing goes for the People's Republic of Dromoda.

And to further bring legal weight and neutrality and fairness to the document, we can seek as well the vote of the WA Council to become the neutral witness to the agreement by way of signing this Treaty of Peace before the members of the WA Council, WA Parliament, and the WA Court of Justice, to show the world and the future generations that nations can work together, despite all different opinions, in the name of world peace.

"Therefore, having Dromoda, the most and only vocal on its dispute with Kennyland over Jillin Island, chooses Option 2 is enough for us to make a move. As we cannot wait for forever before Kennyland speaks up and take position. We should instead keep on trying and trying.
[size=41]This is why we are seeking your views if we should now give the 24 hour ultimatum to Kennyland to agree or disagree to the position of Dromoda, or else we should just push through with Option 1 and give it a try to maintain peace."[/size]
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  Ivania on Wed May 28, 2014 7:40 am

OOC: its as if I never delivered my position as the representative for KennyLand. KennyLand will appear when he can. I do not support this ultimatum. The fact that you have to make a new peace summit because you have problems with NT is a threat to peace.


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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  Europe and Asia on Wed May 28, 2014 9:53 am

OOC: Eurasia is unsupportive of both options too. We request this be taken down.
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  Imperial Tokugawa on Wed May 28, 2014 11:42 am

OOC : Both peace talks is really useless because those nations that organize this peace talks is also having a conflict to each other..
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New-Zealand on Wed May 28, 2014 12:53 pm

I am against the 24 Hour ultimatum. KennyLand is a busy person, so we have to simply wait for him to return. Dromoda has waited so long for these islands, he can damn well wait a while longer. 
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  Yellasia on Wed May 28, 2014 4:15 pm


Minister of Diplomatic Relations, Fei Yonglin

"Thank you, Great Eurussia, for your invitation to this peace summit. I would like to begin by stating that, yes, I am a Dromodian-Yellasian. My ancestors came to the Kingdom of Yellasia as political asylum seekers. They were freethinkers; proud citizens of Dromoda wishing to better the lives of their fellow citizens- but they were targeted by none other than the Communist Party- specifically, its secret police. Fearing for their lives, they had no other choice but to illegally cross the Dragon Sea to Yellasia, where they were accepted as refugees and eventually became free citizens.

As a citizen of Yellasia, but a cultural Dromodian, I understand the experience of Dromodians separated from their familie's homeland. Formerly, the relationship between the People's Republic of Dromoda and the Kingdom of Yellasia was tense. Tensions were heightened at the end of the tragic World War, in which Yellasians and global citizens across the world fought against tyranny from unjust oppression and for the survival of the human race. The Yellasian and Low peoples- in a sense, forming distinct cultures, but also two parts of one nation- were reunited. Yellasia offered the Low Republic- in practice an authoritarian dictatorship and the provoker of war- a just peace. The two nations were only formerly reunited after a Low status referendum, giving Low citizens a choice on whether or not to accept the terms agreed to in the Treaty of Unification. Dromoda saw this as an act of imperialism- yet has used blatant military force on numerous occasions to expand its borders. It happened in Wuhei- who eventually had their autonomy stripped- and now the Dromodian leadership wishes to do the same in Jillin Island. Dromoda is doing worse than what it has criticised in the past.

Tensions were thawed after another Low status referendum. Now, Dromoda and Yellasia are a great example of opposing ideologies working together. The two nations have achieved peace, cooperation, and prosperity. Now, Dromodians can travel to Yellasia freely, the two nations engage in free trade, and even share sovereignty over much of the Dragon Sea. Dromoda itself has made improvements in the area of civil rights- though much work remains. Why is the Dromodian unwilling to offer the same genuine cooperation it has towards Yellasia to Kennyland?

As a free Yellasian citizen- a citizen of a country where I am free to practice my Dromodian culture- I know that the issue of ethnic Dromodians abroad cannot be solved by invasions and occupations. It must be achieved through diplomacy, and legal protection of minority rights. Kennyland offers protections to all minorities- including ethnic Dromodians- in its constitution.

Article 13 states:

Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, and discrimination or segregation of any kind will not be tolerated and shall be considered a worse crime than the highest of treason.

Article 21 states:

All registered citizens shall have the right to vote, race, heritage, sex, and sexual preferences non-withstanding.

Kennyland may not be the greatest example of a bastion of civil liberties, but it protects the rights of its minorities. It's track record is better than that of Dromoda, and there is considerable evidence from Dromodian policy that suggests Kennylanders will face greater oppression under Dromodian rule.

It is also notable that Dromodian political culture is mired by propaganda. The Dromodian leadership claims that Dromodians were the first to settle the island during its colonial area. Kennyland also has a rich history dating back thousands of years, and it cannot be proven that Dromodians were the first to settle the island. Serious historical analysis between members of both nations must take place before any definitive decision can be made.

It is for these reasons that Dromoda's attempt to conquer Jillin Island are unjustified. A 24 hour ultimatum is a blatant use of force. Splitting the island into two can potentially result in forced migration, so it must immediately be scrapped. Regardless, Kennyland is under no obligation to surrender any land to the People's Republic of Dromoda.

The United Kingdom of Greater Yellasia is willing to discuss potential solutions of demilitarised joint sovereignty- not in the form of national zones- or autonomy for Jillin Island under Kennylandish sovereignty. We are also devoted to the rights of minorities within any country- including ethnic Dromodians in Jillin Island. We do, however, reject the reasoning given by the Dromodian leadership, and are not willing to compromise on anything until Kennyland is actively negotiated with through peaceful dialogue."

OOC: You all know I have been inactive for long periods of time before. Even though it's just a game, I would not be happy if I came back to see much of Yellasia occupied by another nation.
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Eurussian Foreign Minister

Post  Great Eurussia on Thu May 29, 2014 1:37 am



Minister of Foreign Affairs of Eurussia
Her Excellency, Condoleezza Rice
"Thank you Foreign Minister Fei Yonglin for providing us with a great background on the culture and politics and history of relations between the Kingdom of Yellasia and that of the People's Republic of Dromoda. It also indeed helped us a lot in understanding your views and position.
We also welcome the views and opinions of the Foreign Ministers of Ivania, New Zealand, Eurasia, and Tokugawa on over the two possible Options in resolving the dispute where the OPTION 1 - Neutralization has gained the consensus of many in this Summit as a last peaceful resort to the silence of Kennyland and the diplomacy of Dromoda.
However, I do believe that we are already halfway through in resolving this dispute finally, as we were able to get the nod and approval of the People's Republic of Dromoda having them endorsed OPTION 2 - Equitable Division of the disputed territory. Hence, we shall just simply await for the official position of the Kennyland Government on the matter. If they say YES, then the dispute is all over, if NO, we can work out and try to find new solution or if they prefer Option 1.
On the issue of ultimatum, I do believe that after the world had been shaken by this dispute and after all political and military posturing of allied nations of the two parties involved while Kennyland maintained its silence, this peaceful and diplomatic ultimatum is a useful tool to convince the Kennyland Government make itself known..."
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Re: Moscow Peace Summit

Post  New Tarajan on Thu May 29, 2014 1:58 am

We disagree, Your Excellency. For its own nature, an ultimatum is never "peaceful".

By the way, the Kennyland government will express its position to the Shraman Conference. In case, we suggest you to propose these Options to that Conference, in order to make well aware of them all the Heads of State and Government who are meeting there.
On its own side, New Tarajan will continue to uphold its own proposal.

In the meanwhile, since Their Excellencies seem to have provided some options which could help the Shraman Conference, I suggest to dismiss this informal meeting and leave the Leaders to discuss the options proposed until they reach a political agreement.

Thank you very much.
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