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Post  Great Eurussia on Tue May 27, 2014 11:23 pm



IMABISTAN MILITARY INTERVENTION
Authored by the Empire of Great Eurussia
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It has been known throughout the world that the Republic of Texania, with the help of the Eurussian Empire and the international community have won its battle in kicking out Regornian separatists and terrorists on its Regornian Territory on Mnemosyne Continent through a military intervention from the World Alliance Council too. And it is very fortunate, that with the help of the international community, the Regornian Territory of Texania has enjoyed peace and stability since the intervention of the WA Council.
However, it has been reported in the past few months that a few escaped elements of the Regornian separatists and terrorists have used the unstable Republic of Imabistan as a haven and take advantage of different crises around the world to recruit more supporters and even smuggled arms into the weakly governed country. And unfortunately, most recently, a news broke out from Imabistan that its constitutionally elected democratic government has been overthrown by the growing influence and supporters of the Regornian separatists and terrorists that is now threatening the peace and stability in the Olympian Continent.
As a matter of fact, as these developments unfolded, the Eurussian Navy has deployed three EUN Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Destroyers near the area to patrol and perform surveillance missions for several months. And with the most recent happenings, we are prompted to deploy an EUN Nimitz Class Supercarrier to show our determination to safeguard peace in the Olympian Continent and to show the terrorists that Eurussia remains committed in leading the efforts in stopping their terrorism activities.
However, citing the failed state of Imabistan, as much as the Eurussian Empire wishes to intervene and unilaterally perform anti-terrorism operations in the country despite all our current sufferings back home, we do not have the legal means to do so, hence we are seeking the authorization of the WA Council on these matter.
Hence, the Eurussian Empire, in belief that the WA Government has the duty to ensure stability and peace in the world, do hereby seeks authorization for an international military intervention in Imabistan.
Section 1) The World Alliance do hereby recognize that with the forceful overthrown of the democratic government in Imabistan with the forceful coup of the Regornian terrorists in the country, the Republic of Imabistan is now a failed state with no credible government.
Section 2) The World Alliance hereby authorizes a military intervention on the Imabistan with the aim of retaking the territory from terrorists through the leadership of the World Alliance Armed Forces with the aid from other concerned organizations.
Section 3) The World Alliance hereby authorizes a military protected humanitarian mission to  Imabistan with the aim of assisting the lives of the innocent civilians during the military intervention through the leadership of the World Alliance Humanitarian Organization with the aid from other concerned nations.
Section 4) The World Alliance hereby affirms that the military intervention will only lose its effect after the WA Secretary General, the WAAF Secretary General, the WAHO Secretary General has certified that the country has been freed from terrorism, and such, the WA Council must initiate a civilian administration to form a new constitutionally elected democratic government over the new Republic of Imabistan.
Section 5) The World Allliance hereby affirms that any recognition and support to the Regornian terrorists in Imabistan and any unlawful acquisition of any sovereign territories of Imabistan shall be considered against the military intervention, an international crime, and violation of the principles of the WA Constitution.


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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  New Tarajan on Tue May 27, 2014 11:34 pm

As Council member, we commend the intention of fighting the illegal Imabistani regime.

However, we wish to underline few points:

1) Please, scrap out that "as the major guardian of peace in the world", since it is so auto-celebrative, and not true (many other countries, including New Tarajan, continue to promote peace at the same level of Eurussia). Thanks.

2) We believe it to be no necessary, and also discriminatory of the right to self-determination of the Imabistani people, to mention in this law that the future form of government shall be a Republic. Indeed, we ask that, after the successful military elimination of the illegal regime, a referendum should be called upon in order to decide also the form of government.

3) Finally, we would see implemented in this text also an article forbidding any kind of territorial acquisition by foreign Powers, in order to avoid what happened in Ceveztria, with all its dangerous consequences.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Great Eurussia on Tue May 27, 2014 11:52 pm


1) Please, scrap out that "as the major guardian of peace in the world", since it is so auto-celebrative, and not true (many other countries, including New Tarajan, continue to promote peace at the same level of Eurussia). Thanks.


Eurussia deplores such disrespectful remarks. We request New Tarajan to refrain from boasting as the phrase itself is just a simple manifestation and expression on the aspirations of the Eurussian Government, and not even part of the law itself. Thank you.


2) We believe it to be no necessary, and also discriminatory of the right to self-determination of the Imabistani people, to mention in this law that the future form of government shall be a Republic. Indeed, we ask that, after the successful military elimination of the illegal regime, a referendum should be called upon in order to decide also the form of government.


Eurussia sees no issue with word 'republic' since it means nothing but a reference to Imabistan. In fact, the provision itself is very clear, the WA Government will only supervise a transitional government where of course, the people will have the final say.


3) Finally, we would see implemented in this text also an article forbidding any kind of territorial acquisition by foreign Powers, in order to avoid what happened in Ceveztria, with all its dangerous consequences.


Again, Eurussia condemns such disrespectful remarks over the intentions of mentioning the former Republic of Ceveztria on this unrelated proposal. We request New Tarajan to refrain doing such as it is very undiplomatic. However, we will gladly include in the proposal the commendable suggestion.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Great Eurussia on Tue May 27, 2014 11:54 pm

Eurussia informs New Tarjan that its proposals were included on the official draft.
Now, we request all members of the Council to issue their votes.
Also, we are ready to hear more suggestions, if any.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 12:06 am

Honestly, we do not see such changes in the draft you're proposing.

And, about our statements: they were not disrespectful, but simple requests aimed to strengthen the efficacy of this law and its impartiality as well.
It is unfortunate that the Eurussian government felt itself particularly hit by those statements.
Thank you.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 12:13 am

New Tarajan wrote:Honestly, we do not see such changes in the draft you're proposing.

And, about our statements: they were not disrespectful, but simple requests aimed to strengthen the efficacy of this law and its impartiality as well.
It is unfortunate that the Eurussian government felt itself particularly hit by those statements.
Thank you.

Well, we are not affected by such statements as we are merely asking for some sort of professionalism, if only possible. On the other hand, we request New Tarajan, to look closely on Section 5 of the proposal and see for itself what it is looking for.
Thank you.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 12:17 am

Thank you for the clarifications.
However, for the sake of efficiency, we would seek for a clarification of what his deemed to be "unlawful" in order to avoid future confusion; or, alternatively, to directly scrap the term from the Section, an option which we would prefer.

Moreover, what about our concerns about the future form of government?
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 12:31 am

New Tarajan wrote:Thank you for the clarifications.
However, for the sake of efficiency, we would seek for a clarification of what his deemed to be "unlawful" in order to avoid future confusion; or, alternatively, to directly scrap the term from the Section, an option which we would prefer.

Moreover, what about our concerns about the future form of government?

Eurussia actually sees no reason and problem at all about the word "unlawful" since it is fair and neutral, much more the provisions on the future form of government of Imabistan, which has been already addressed as a democratically elected government.
Eurussia believes it has addressed all the concerns of New Tarajan.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 12:37 am

We do not believe so, sorry.

But we believe the people of Imabistan shall have the full power to decide about the future form of government.

And, moreover, the term "unlawful" is, unfortunately, open to interpretation, a thing which could provide an unnecessary stimulus for "adventures."
Thus, we do not see any reason for not specifying the term or scrapping it, since it would not undermine the law purposes: pretty the opposite.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Wed May 28, 2014 12:57 am

New Tarajan wrote:We do not believe so, sorry.

But we believe the people of Imabistan shall have the full power to decide about the future form of government.

And, moreover, the term "unlawful" is, unfortunately, open to interpretation, a thing which could provide an unnecessary stimulus for "adventures."
Thus, we do not see any reason for not specifying the term or scrapping it, since it would not undermine the law purposes: pretty the opposite.

Eurussia simply cannot understand the concerns of the Kingdom of New Tarajan. We see no problem of having the WA Government supervise a very obvious democratic election on Imabistan after the ouster of the terrorists. Much more the word "unlawful" which doesn't refer to particularly anything. On these case, we simply believe that New Tarajan might just be derailing this intervention.
And with that, we simply ask New Tarajan to make its vote and reject the proposal just because of its concerns that have been addressed and repeatedly addressed. What is more important for Eurussia is to immediately send the WAAF to Imabistan and help protect the people. As we believe that every second we waste on non-sense debates, an innocent life of an Imabistani might be terrorized or even killed by the terrorists wreaking havoc on the small and innocent nation in Olympia.
Thank you.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Europe and Asia on Wed May 28, 2014 3:59 am

Both of you, stop it.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Arveyres on Wed May 28, 2014 4:39 am

Great Eurussia wrote:

1) Please, scrap out that "as the major guardian of peace in the world", since it is so auto-celebrative, and not true (many other countries, including New Tarajan, continue to promote peace at the same level of Eurussia). Thanks.


Eurussia deplores such disrespectful remarks. We request New Tarajan to refrain from boasting as the phrase itself is just a simple manifestation and expression on the aspirations of the Eurussian Government, and not even part of the law itself. Thank you.
We also request that it be taken out as it claims to put your nation above many others for peacekeeping abilities, which is very conceited and we would not like to see favorable bias in legislation.

And yes, as a written part of the bill, it is part of the law itself.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  New Tarajan on Wed May 28, 2014 7:43 pm

Thanks for the support Arveyres.
We'll wait to see in the law the corrections we suggested.

Eurasia: sorry. It was not our intention to create problems. But we wish to avoid further problems also on Imabistan. Better to prevent, than to heal.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Great Eurussia on Thu May 29, 2014 1:52 am

The Eurussian Government respects both of your position, however, we believe that your reaction to this simple phrase which doesn't have an impact on the proposed action itself, is just politically motivated, which we hope we're wrong. And we hope is not true as well.
Since for your enlightenment, and FYI, this proposed law is the EXACT copy of the draft of the Regornian Military Intervention which was unanimously approved by all members of the previous WA Council, without even lifting a finger on this non-sense phrase, with which New Tarajan itself, voted in favor without giving any issue on the same phrase which only represents our aspirations.
See it for yourselves.
And now, that there is no credible, nor complaint on the very merits of the proposed Council action itself, Eurussia hopes for a vote from the members of this honourable Council, for us to finally help liberate Imabistan from Regornian terrorists and save more lives.
Thank you.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Great Eurussia on Thu May 29, 2014 2:00 am

Oh, by the way, Eurussia is in favor, of course.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  New Tarajan on Thu May 29, 2014 2:01 am

Great Eurussia wrote:Oh, by the way, Eurussia is in favor, of course.

The President has not yet announced the beginning of the vote period.

About what you said previously: unfortunately, it was our own mistake not to check more carefully the Regornian Intervention Act.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Great Eurussia on Thu May 29, 2014 2:08 am

New Tarajan wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:Oh, by the way, Eurussia is in favor, of course.

The President has not yet announced the beginning of the vote period.

About what you said previously: unfortunately, it was our own mistake not to check more carefully the Regornian Intervention Act.

Thanks for reminding us! We appreciate it!
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Europe and Asia on Thu May 29, 2014 4:29 am

Great Eurussia wrote:
The Eurussian Government respects both of your position, however, we believe that your reaction to this simple phrase which doesn't have an impact on the proposed action itself, is just politically motivated, which we hope we're wrong. And we hope is not true as well.
Since for your enlightenment, and FYI, this proposed law is the EXACT copy of the draft of the Regornian Military Intervention which was unanimously approved by all members of the previous WA Council, without even lifting a finger on this non-sense phrase, with which New Tarajan itself, voted in favor without giving any issue on the same phrase which only represents our aspirations.
See it for yourselves.
And now, that there is no credible, nor complaint on the very merits of the proposed Council action itself, Eurussia hopes for a vote from the members of this honourable Council, for us to finally help liberate Imabistan from Regornian terrorists and save more lives.
Thank you.

Just take it out, would you? It is extremely self-aggrandizing.
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Great Eurussia on Thu May 29, 2014 4:32 am

Europe and Asia wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
The Eurussian Government respects both of your position, however, we believe that your reaction to this simple phrase which doesn't have an impact on the proposed action itself, is just politically motivated, which we hope we're wrong. And we hope is not true as well.
Since for your enlightenment, and FYI, this proposed law is the EXACT copy of the draft of the Regornian Military Intervention which was unanimously approved by all members of the previous WA Council, without even lifting a finger on this non-sense phrase, with which New Tarajan itself, voted in favor without giving any issue on the same phrase which only represents our aspirations.
See it for yourselves.
And now, that there is no credible, nor complaint on the very merits of the proposed Council action itself, Eurussia hopes for a vote from the members of this honourable Council, for us to finally help liberate Imabistan from Regornian terrorists and save more lives.
Thank you.

Just take it out, would you? It is extremely self-aggrandizing.

lol okay okay :-)
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Post  Great Eurussia on Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:29 am

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IMABISTAN MILITARY INTERVENTION
Authored by the Empire of Great Eurussia
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It has been known throughout the world that the Republic of Texania, with the help of the Eurussian Empire and the international community have won its battle in kicking out Regornian separatists and terrorists on its Regornian Territory on Mnemosyne Continent through a military intervention from the World Alliance Council too. And it is very fortunate, that with the help of the international community, the Regornian Territory of Texania has enjoyed peace and stability since the intervention of the WA Council.
However, it has been reported in the past few months that a few escaped elements of the Regornian separatists and terrorists have used the unstable Republic of Imabistan as a haven and take advantage of different crises around the world to recruit more supporters and even smuggled arms into the weakly governed country. And unfortunately, most recently, a news broke out from Imabistan that its constitutionally elected democratic government has been overthrown by the growing influence and supporters of the Regornian separatists and terrorists that is now threatening the peace and stability in the Olympian Continent.
As a matter of fact, as these developments unfolded, the Eurussian Navy has deployed three EUN Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Destroyers near the area to patrol and perform surveillance missions for several months. And with the most recent happenings, we are prompted to deploy an EUN Nimitz Class Supercarrier to show our determination to safeguard peace in the Olympian Continent and to show the terrorists that Eurussia remains committed in leading the efforts in stopping their terrorism activities.
However, citing the failed state of Imabistan, as much as the Eurussian Empire wishes to intervene and unilaterally perform anti-terrorism operations in the country despite all our current sufferings back home, we do not have the legal means to do so, hence we are seeking the authorization of the WA Council on these matter.
Hence, the Eurussian Empire, in belief that the WA Government has the duty to ensure stability and peace in the world, do hereby seeks authorization for an international military intervention in Imabistan.
Section 1) The World Alliance do hereby recognize that with the forceful overthrown of the democratic government in Imabistan with the forceful coup of the Regornian terrorists in the country, the Republic of Imabistan is now a failed state with no credible government.
Section 2) The World Alliance hereby authorizes a military intervention on the Imabistan with the aim of retaking the territory from terrorists through the leadership of the World Alliance Armed Forces with the aid from other concerned organizations.
Section 3) The World Alliance hereby authorizes a military protected humanitarian mission to  Imabistan with the aim of assisting the lives of the innocent civilians during the military intervention through the leadership of the World Alliance Humanitarian Organization with the aid from other concerned nations.
Section 4) The World Alliance hereby affirms that the military intervention will only lose its effect after the WA Secretary General, the WAAF Secretary General, the WAHO Secretary General has certified that the country has been freed from terrorism, and such, the WA Council must initiate a civilian administration to form a new constitutionally elected democratic government over the new Republic of Imabistan.
Section 5) The World Allliance hereby affirms that any recognition and support to the Regornian terrorists in Imabistan and any unlawful acquisition of any sovereign territories of Imabistan shall be considered against the military intervention, an international crime, and violation of the principles of the WA Constitution.

Eurussia believes that this is long overdue. Hence, we vote in favor.
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Post  Ireland on Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:32 am

We vote in favor
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Shirouma on Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:20 pm

I am sorry for the delay, won't happen again.

Let's vote!
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Great Eurussia on Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:45 pm

Shirouma wrote:I am sorry for the delay, won't happen again.

Let's vote!

Thanks! We have voted already. What's your vote?
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Post  Dromoda on Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:02 pm

We vote in favor
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Re: (Passed) Imabistan Military Intervention

Post  Texania on Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:47 am

One minor mistake in the bill. "The Regornian territory of Texania" is not what its called. It is called "The Texanian Territory of Airedunn" btw.
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