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Post  New-Zealand on Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:32 pm

The Shraman Pact (SP)

This is the Official Meeting Place for members of the elite Shraman Pact, a collective of Anti-Imperialistic nations who strive for freedom, impartiality and equal representation for all. We meet here as a group of nations, of allies, that stand together not for each other but for the people without a voice. WE are their voice! We do everything in our ability to ensure that the weaker among us are not oppressed by the stronger.  If you want to be a member of this nation, all it takes is an application, but do not take the admission lightly. If you wish to be one of us, you must show, or be willing to show, dedication to our cause. This is a humanitarian group and we are not fighting for ourselves, but for others. Our missions range from invasion defence forces, hostage rescues and shutting down international crime syndicates (such as human trafficking) all the way down to providing aid after civil disasters and distributing immunisations during outbreaks.

We are the Shraman Pact, we are the first and last line of defence for the underprivileged few.



Current Members
The Social Democracy of New-Zealand
The The Socialist Commonwealth of Europe and Asia
The Comrades Union of Ivania
The State of Shirouma
The Commonwealth of Havenburgh
The Federal Aristocratic Kingdom of New Tarajan
The Kingdom of Yellasia
The Federation of Antanares


SP Headquarters

The "Freedom Complex", Previously served as HQ for the CSSN. 
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Post  New-Zealand on Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:32 pm

So what do you guys reckon? I think the first thing we need is a coat of arms, you guys got any ideas?
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Post  Europe and Asia on Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:55 pm

Perhaps we should instead focus on dealing with the Dromodian issue? He is now building enough conventional missiles to possibly cause major damage to our nations. (He's admitted they're targeted at us.)
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Post  New Tarajan on Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:27 pm

Thank you, NZ, for your awesome work (and for providing us with an HQ too).

However, Eurasia is right: we need to handle with Dromoda as soon as possible.
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Post  Federation of Antanares on Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:37 pm

I think we have two priorities now: finish the works to complete this organisation, that would become the bastion against any kind of imperialism and resolve the dromodian issues. If it has started a total rearm of its unconventional weapons, I think that after a diplomatic condamnation we must intervene with the legal instruments of the World Alliance, like the Court of Justice, the Council or the organisations like the WADSJ and the WAAF. It's intollerable that this organisation intervenes only AFTER the damages, we must prevent them.

OOC: Also, I'm a little busy with, I hope, the last exam of the year, so I could be not present every day ^^
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Post  New-Zealand on Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:21 am

Should we go for an official condemnation of Eurussia?
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Post  Europe and Asia on Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:24 am

Yes. All day, every day.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:29 am

New-Zealand wrote:Should we go for an official condemnation of Eurussia?

Why?
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Post  Great Eurussia on Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:33 am

Europe and Asia wrote:Yes. All day, every day.

Bad! LOL, by the way, what are the criteria?

For Membership?
For Observership?

Eurussia is interested to join as Observer!
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Post  Europe and Asia on Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:40 pm

Eurussia may not apply for membership, or observer status at any time.

Thank you.
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Post  New Tarajan on Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:44 pm

The Kingdom of New Tarajan, as co-found of this alliance, completely agree with the words of the Eurasian government.
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Post  New Tarajan on Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:13 am

Citing the recent tensions arose around Orenburg, it is the opinion of the Tarajani government that this would be a wonderful occasion to show the strength of our Pact.

New Tarajan and Eurasia already delivered their warning against a possible military escalation, however we are worried that our actions could be deliberately misunderstood by the pro-Eurussian propaganda and labelled as pro-imperialistic. For this reason, we would like to suggest to the Pact a joint declaration, underlining that our common position is against any imperialism and against a possible military escalation, not in favour of any claim, since this particular issue should be resolved through diplomacy.
We will issue a new warning, this time against ANY kind of military transfer, from ANY side, both Eurussia and Ireland.
Also, New Tarajan will proceed immediately by rectifying our own words, extending its own warning also to Ireland.
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Post  Europe and Asia on Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:53 am

I too will amend my news post.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:36 pm

Europe and Asia wrote:Eurussia may not apply for membership, or observer status at any time.

Thank you.

Eurussia asks the grounds for any nation not to be able to join this organization. We are inquiring about the criteria for full membership and that of observership status.
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Post  New Tarajan on Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:30 pm

Here is the ground, in your case:

"Eurussia did not enjoy the trust of the founders and the members of this Organization (add: particularly, of New Tarajan)."

Isn't it sufficient?

About the rest, we believe this Organization shall be free to accept or deny the entrance to any country we wish. Differently from what happens in NATO, this is a common, joint decision, and this sole point already provides a sufficient, legitimate ground.

Now, since you're not a member, following your same rules, we believe you've nothing more to say here, and that the birth of a debate here is unuseful and unnecessary.

Thank you.
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Post  New-Zealand on Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:49 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
Europe and Asia wrote:Eurussia may not apply for membership, or observer status at any time.

Thank you.

Eurussia asks the grounds for any nation not to be able to join this organization. We are inquiring about the criteria for full membership and that of observership status.

This is fundamentally an anti-imperialistic pact. Obviously, many of our members don't seem to think you fit the bill. Sooooooooo, Rejected. Don't take it personally. You just don't allign with the fundamentals of the Pact. Why you'd want to join in the first place beats me considering this pact's objectives would go against the interests of the Eurussian Government (As far as I can make out). 

Let me just point out to all prospective members, as was stated in the intro post, admission to this group is under the full discretion of the current members. We have no set criteria as that would add needless bureaucracy and confusion.
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Post  New-Zealand on Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:51 pm

New Tarajan wrote:Citing the recent tensions arose around Orenburg, it is the opinion of the Tarajani government that this would be a wonderful occasion to show the strength of our Pact.

New Tarajan and Eurasia already delivered their warning against a possible military escalation, however we are worried that our actions could be deliberately misunderstood by the pro-Eurussian propaganda and labelled as pro-imperialistic. For this reason, we would like to suggest to the Pact a joint declaration, underlining that our common position is against any imperialism and against a possible military escalation, not in favour of any claim, since this particular issue should be resolved through diplomacy.
We will issue a new warning, this time against ANY kind of military transfer, from ANY side, both Eurussia and Ireland.
Also, New Tarajan will proceed immediately by rectifying our own words, extending its own warning also to Ireland.

This pact need's to act together as a united front. If we fly under our joint banner, it makes a far bigger impact that if we all acted independently.
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Post  New Tarajan on Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:53 pm

Indeed, New Tarajan agrees with you.
This is why we are asking for this.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:21 pm

New-Zealand wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
Europe and Asia wrote:Eurussia may not apply for membership, or observer status at any time.

Thank you.

Eurussia asks the grounds for any nation not to be able to join this organization. We are inquiring about the criteria for full membership and that of observership status.

This is fundamentally an anti-imperialistic pact. Obviously, many of our members don't seem to think you fit the bill. Sooooooooo, Rejected. Don't take it personally. You just don't allign with the fundamentals of the Pact. Why you'd want to join in the first place beats me considering this pact's objectives would go against the interests of the Eurussian Government (As far as I can make out). 

Let me just point out to all prospective members, as was stated in the intro post, admission to this group is under the full discretion of the current members. We have no set criteria as that would add needless bureaucracy and confusion.

Eurussia haven't submitted any request for membership yet as we are merely inquiring for criteria for obersvership and membership. Although we respect the beliefs of the member states, we would like to see the justification of the organization on saying that the objectives of the organization are against the interests of the Eurussian Government, when in fact, the organization haven't asked yet what are the interests of the Eurussian Government.
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Post  New Tarajan on Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:52 pm

With all due respect, we wish to ask what is not clear, to the Eurussian Government, in the fact that this is not the place for debate, and that a non-member country has no right to start a debate here without authorization. It was your own rule, we remember.

So, please, stop inquiring about our criteria; particularly, if you're not asking for membership.
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Post  Federation of Antanares on Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:58 pm

You are the perfect example of imperialist nation, Eurussia. You act behind the laws of the World Alliance, using them when you prefer, refusing with futile cavils the decision of the courts, expanding your territory with the imposition of bases in all the world, thinking that Eurussia is the center of the world. I remember your blacklist, the "dangerous" blacklist. You act like you are the more powerful. But, sincerely, the World Alliance is full of super-power. New-Zealand is one of the economical superpower of the WA, New-Tarajan is a financial colossus, Antanares is one of the most advanced and powerful nation, like Eurasia.
We are tired to see all our attempts to construct a fair society destroyed from the imperialists. We are tired of occupations, we are tired to fake peace-enforcer operations that ends with the elimination of entire nation only because some nations need a piece of lands. We are tired to see entire international organisation bent and block because their goals oppose to the interest of some fake-superpower.
The Shraman Pact is the line, the bastion, of the nations that are tired of the imperialism, not only of the your imperialism, all the imperialism, from all the nations. You want a criteria of participation? I think is simple: it's necessary to don't be an imperialist nation. Simple. We don't need a twisted statute, we have this single rule.
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Post  Europe and Asia on Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:37 pm

Federation of Antanares wrote:You are the perfect example of imperialist nation, Eurussia. You act behind the laws of the World Alliance, using them when you prefer, refusing with futile cavils the decision of the courts, expanding your territory with the imposition of bases in all the world, thinking that Eurussia is the center of the world. I remember your blacklist, the "dangerous" blacklist. You act like you are the more powerful. But, sincerely, the World Alliance is full of super-power. New-Zealand is one of the economical superpower of the WA, New-Tarajan is a financial colossus, Antanares is one of the most advanced and powerful nation, like Eurasia.
We are tired to see all our attempts to construct a fair society destroyed from the imperialists. We are tired of occupations, we are tired to fake peace-enforcer operations that ends with the elimination of entire nation only because some nations need a piece of lands. We are tired to see entire international organisation bent and block because their goals oppose to the interest of some fake-superpower.
The Shraman Pact is the line, the bastion, of the nations that are tired of the imperialism, not only of the your imperialism, all the imperialism, from all the nations. You want a criteria of participation? I think is simple: it's necessary to don't be an imperialist nation. Simple. We don't need a twisted statute, we have this single rule.

Exactly this. Until you change your policies and undergo some serious reformations, there is no place for you in this organization.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:14 pm

Eurussia respects your opinion. And we also thank you for recognizing our efforts in keeping the peace, security, and stability and upholding the WA Constitution in every corner of the world. We are in no way branding our self as a superpower, but if that is the way you see it, we thank you for such compliment. We also hope that before accusing Eurussia of imperialism, we ask those accusers to check themselves first and don't be blinded by the fact that Eurussia is working hard with every nation in the world to promote and maintain world peace.
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Post  New Tarajan on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:17 pm

Great Eurussia wrote:
Eurussia respects your opinion. And we also thank you for recognizing our efforts in keeping the peace, security, and stability and upholding the WA Constitution in every corner of the world. We are in no way branding our self as a superpower, but if that is the way you see it, we thank you for such compliment. We also hope that before accusing Eurussia of imperialism, we ask those accusers to check themselves first and don't be blinded by the fact that Eurussia is working hard with every nation in the world to promote and maintain world peace.

Yes, yes, you're welcome.
Thanks for your propaganda.
Now, with all due respect, we have nothing more to talk about with you.
Thank you.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:35 pm

New Tarajan wrote:
Great Eurussia wrote:
Eurussia respects your opinion. And we also thank you for recognizing our efforts in keeping the peace, security, and stability and upholding the WA Constitution in every corner of the world. We are in no way branding our self as a superpower, but if that is the way you see it, we thank you for such compliment. We also hope that before accusing Eurussia of imperialism, we ask those accusers to check themselves first and don't be blinded by the fact that Eurussia is working hard with every nation in the world to promote and maintain world peace.

Yes, yes, you're welcome.
Thanks for your propaganda.
Now, with all due respect, we have nothing more to talk about with you.
Thank you.

You're welcome. By the way, they are not propaganda, they are facts. Thanks again!
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