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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:43 am

The Scottish Republic is asking for moral damages and slander against Apepistan for accusing the WTU of sinking their ship and when ask to provide evidence on the peace talks in Moscow, they left and they plan to make an embargo again by convincing ZAR. The Scottish Republic is a neutral and peaceful country and we want tobprotect our dignity on all accusations.


If you want proof I will send the link to the peace talks.
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Post  New Rhodinia on Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:57 am

This is a matter between states and organizations, not the security council as a whole. I doubt something as commonplace as a petty accusation is worth the Security Council's time and energy.
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Post  Apepistan on Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:16 am

1. The United Kingdoms of Apepistan never accused the WTU of sinking our ship.

2. The United Kingdoms of Apepistan never proposed an embargo against the WTU.

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan, however, would gladly send expert translators to the Scottish Republic in case the scottish authorities have a hard time understanding our statements.
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Post  Snarfian Federation on Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:21 am

Can you give us any evidence scotsland?
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Post  England and Wales on Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:14 pm

Children please! If this kind of action keeps happening Omega Atlantica will force its self to leave both the ZAR and WTU. That is final and that is all.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:14 pm

Scottish Republic wrote:The Scottish Republic is asking for moral damages and slander against Apepistan for accusing the WTU of sinking their ship and when ask to provide evidence on the peace talks in Moscow, they left and they plan to make an embargo again by convincing ZAR. The Scottish Republic is a neutral and peaceful country and we want tobprotect our dignity on all accusations.


If you want proof I will send the link to the peace talks.


As the President of the Security Council, citng the complaint filed by Scottlands and the immediate response and defense of Apepistan, the complaint is now an international case which shall be referred officially as 'Scottlands vs Apepistan'



Please note that this matter will be handled by the Tenth Security Council under its JUDICIAL AUTHORITY. Thus, at this stage, only the Republic of Scottlands and the United Kingdoms of Apepistan may get involved in this issue.

Eurussia will inform the SC if it's time to vote for verdict.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:17 pm



  • Apepistan

1. The United Kingdoms of Apepistan never accused the WTU of sinking our ship.

2. The United Kingdoms of Apepistan never proposed an embargo against the WTU.

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan, however, would gladly send expert translators to the Scottish Republic in case the scottish authorities have a hard time understanding our statements.


Scottlands is hereby requested to counter the arguments from Apepistan within two (2) days. However, for the speedy resolution of this arbitration, both Parties may continue to exchange arguments with utmost respect to each other and for the Security Council.
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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:44 am

Great Eurussia wrote:


  • Apepistan

1. The United Kingdoms of Apepistan never accused the WTU of sinking our ship.

2. The United Kingdoms of Apepistan never proposed an embargo against the WTU.

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan, however, would gladly send expert translators to the Scottish Republic in case the scottish authorities have a hard time understanding our statements.


Scottlands is hereby requested to counter the arguments from Apepistan within two (2) days. However, for the speedy resolution of this arbitration, both Parties may continue to exchange arguments with utmost respect to each other and for the Security Council.


http://worldalliance.postalboard.com/t623p90-zar-zaristic-league-of-trade#23966

http://worldalliance.postalboard.com/t623p135-zar-zaristic-league-of-trade#24827

http://worldalliance.postalboard.com/t517p180-moscow-peace-summit#24110


Scottish Republic proud to say that Apepistan lied and accused the great republic and all WTU of sinking ZAR ship and proposing embargoes and supporting embargo proposals.
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Post  Apepistan on Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:58 am

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan have no quarrel with Scottlands, we are merely protecting the Zaristic League of Trade, as we are a high ranking member state in it, and therefore, it is our duty to do so. However, the intentions of Scottlands to turn the WTU-ZAR conflict from an interorganisational into an international matter is worrisome.

The WTU-ZAR conflict started with the news Azotakza has given to us, on Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:25 am.
Azotakza wrote:
With WTU spreading lies about our members, calling us war Mongolers. I have called a dissuasion to talk about what should we do. WTU declared us a enemy as soon as they establish there Union, with out proper reason. Also with issue that they are trying to block us from trading with other non ZAR members. Scotland has been know to radically take action against something. Also WTU "trade ships" have been privateering ZAR tradeships. And they have the nerve to call us war mongolers.

Also note that before doing anything, the United Kingdoms of Apepistan were the first to propose diplomatic discussions about the matter, on Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:01 am.
Apepistan wrote:We have agreed that we will create cooperative convoys and escorts to our trade ships if they are being threatened and/or raided.
[...]
I suggest we invite a delegation from WTU to clear this issue; until then we must protect our trade ships in dangerous international waters. If the ZAR delegation of Azotakza, would show us on a map where these attacks happened, and quote when the WTU declared war on us would help too.

Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:40 pm., the United Kingdoms of Apepistan have requested a discussion with WTU.

Apepistan wrote:The United Kingdoms of Apepistan requests that the WTU sends representatives to a meeting with the ZAR leadership to clear recent issues, mainly:

- The suspected attack of a ZAR trade ship by a WTU member.
- The diplomatic insults of WTU against ZAR and its members.
- The contradictory statements WTU leadership is making.

ZAR would gladly host the meeting for clearing these issues, but if a nation neutral to both WTU and ZAR will volunteer to do so, that is also acceptable. Telegram the Azotakzian ZAR representatives for the details, as they are the Head of the ZAR Court.

Thank you in advance.

The response of the WTU came 3 days later, on Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:12 am., and it was rather disappointing.
Scottish Republic wrote:
The WTU rejects all your accusations. They are all lies. We will not attend any meeting with any ZAR country because of your accusations.

Later, due to the aid of Eurussia, on Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:36 pm. the Moscow Peace Summit was opened for the WTU-ZAR case.


The ZAR embargo was proposed as a counter measurement after WTU has refused discussions. First it was mentioned by the United States of Scouting along with a blockade, but the United Kingdoms of Apepistan were against the blockade, in order not to escalate the situation into open conflict.

Apepistan wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:In an effort to harm and disrupt their trade, I propose to make a ZAR-wide trade embargo and blockade. [...] Furthermore, I propose naval escorts continue for a period of 2 weeks after the initial embargo, if nothing happens, we can probably call them off after that time period has passed.  

Failure to run this route, which is the only route left open to us by the WTU, will allow other trade leagues and nations run over us. We need to show that we are not to be messed with and that we will hold nations accountable for their acts of war against our trade league.

Apepistan proposes that we only embargo the WTU members. A blockade is not needed, obviously, we don't want to escalate this situation into an open conflict.

However, Eurussia is an observer state to the ZAR aswell and member of the WTU. Apepistan also signed a separate trade agreement with Eurussia. Therefore we propose that the WTU embargo will not include Eurussia.

We agree with the 2 weeks for naval escort.

After the WTU-ZAR talks opened, the United Kingdoms of Apepistan have agreed with Omega Atlantica, that there should be no embargo against the WTU. Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:58 am. The issue was later dismissed by the United States of Scouting.

Apepistan wrote:
Omega Atlantica wrote:I am Against at this moment in time... we are been visted by Scotlands' leader... it would not be the best thing for us to do

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan agrees. Finally we're opening a discussion; let us keep this proposal in delay until we know the outcome of it.

Even though the peace talks were disappointing and one-sided, the United Kingdoms of Apepistan have voted against an embargo against the WTU on Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:36 pm..

Apepistan wrote:
UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:With the peace talks over, we suggest that we revote on the impending embargo against the world trade union. Scouting hereby calls to vote to embargo of the world trade union. Scouting votes for this action to take place.


The United Kingdoms of Apepistan suggest that instead of a full embargo, the ZAR introduces a significantly higher tax rate on WTU nations and wares produced by WTU nations.

Muchos Estados Unidos wrote: I am against. We should just forget about them and move on.

No, this is far from over, just because the Moscow Peace Summit didn't bring anything new. They even openly claim that the founder of ZAR, Azotakza, and also the United States of Scouting are their members:
Scottish Republic wrote:
WTU nations: Scottish Republic, Svaerige, Great Eurussia, Uzukima, Russia, China China, Omega Atlantica, Scouting, Azotakza,

We also highly suggest that both nations (Azotakza and the United States of Scouting), make a clear statement about this.

At the same time, we brought up other issues, namely that WTU falsely claims that Azotakza and Scouting are WTU member states. The United States of Scouting gave an open statement about the matter on on Wed Dec 31, 2014 4:50 pm, and the Republic of Scottlands has refused to take the United States of Scouting off the "WTU members list" ever since.
http://worldalliance.postalboard.com/t663-scouting-in-the-wtu#24893

UnitedStatesOfScouting wrote:It has come to the attention of the Scouting Government that we have been listed as an active member of the WTU, World Trade Union. We want to announce to the World Alliance, that we are in fact NOT members of the WTU, and we disapprove of the WTU as a whole.

Thanks,
Durion Jarno
President of the United States of Scouting

Also, the Republic of Scottlands have once again proven how informed they are. Sat Jan 3 1:48 am.
Scottish Republic wrote:Scottish Republic files cases against Apepistan in international courts

Consistent to the neutral foreign policy of the Scottish Government, after all efforts failed to settle peace with Apepistan leader of ZAR, Lady Nicola ordered to file cases against the Apepistan in international courts to clean the name of the ALL of WTU and the Scottish Republic.

The United Kingdoms of Apepistan are not the leader of the ZAR, get your facts straight. The Head of Court is Azotakza. The United Kingdoms of Apepistan only holds a patrician position, along with Shlask, United states of Scouting and Xolox, but we seem to be the only ones defending our organisation against external threats.
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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:21 am

We see that Apepistan never embargo Scottish Republic but the truth is whole WTU because we only refuse meeting. It is our right to refuse not to cooperate with Apepistan and ZAR because they accuse us of sinking their ship. We ask for investigation until now they do not know who is suspect. And they still believe it is WTU until now no evidence. The Scottish Government also protect the WTU like Apepistan to ZAR but we want to straight facts because it seem that we are the wrongdoer even though we are not.


In Eurussia meeting, Scottish President approve the proposal of peace but Apepistan walkout and ZAR. Apepistan is lying until now. He say did not propose embargo us but I have proof and Apepistan post show it. He also propose high taxes to all WTU.


Now who is telling the real truth? I think WTU deserve to embargo ZAR for all of this but we didnot propose that because we are neutral. We are just thinking about it now after all this failed peace meetings. But there is no vote about that on WTU because we want peace.
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Post  Apepistan on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:25 am

Scottish Republic wrote:We see that Apepistan never embargo Scottish Republic but the truth is whole WTU because we only refuse meeting. It is our right to refuse not to cooperate with Apepistan and ZAR because they accuse us of sinking their ship. [...]

For the last time, we did not accuse, it was SUSPECTED. That is why we ASKED you. We simply wanted to clear the issue without creating any conflict but we've got insults only in return.

suspect
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səˈspɛkt/
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have an idea or impression of the existence, presence, or truth of (something) without certain proof.

accuse
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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:30 am

If you are only suspecting WTU of sinking ZAR ship and not accusing, why resort to embargo and trade war against all of WTU when we did not cooperate and approve your request for discussions because we feel insulted too of being suspected on sinkig your ships without any evidence until now!
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Post  Apepistan on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:33 am

Scottish Republic wrote:If you are only suspecting WTU of sinking ZAR ship and not accusing, why resort to embargo and trade war against all of WTU when we did not cooperate and approve your request for discussions because we feel insulted too of being suspected on sinkig your ships without any evidence until now!

Read our statements again and you'll find the answer. We've already explained it.
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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:35 am

WTU only ask for proof before any meeting on your accusation on sinking ZAR ship. But when you cannot show anything, WTU denied your request. End of story.
Where is the evidence now?????? Show it!!!!!
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Post  Apepistan on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:39 am

Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:54 am

Azotakza wrote:I think it was a Svaerige ship.
The ship reported a flag of the WTU being flown above it.
Svaerige has been building tensions with ZAR after the treaty we plan failed.

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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:41 am

Where is the proof that WTU sink the ship?
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Post  Apepistan on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:42 am

Scottish Republic wrote:Where is the proof that WTU sink the ship?

Ask Azotakza. He is the source of information.
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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:48 am

You ask Azotakza because your the main accuser.
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Post  Snarfian Federation on Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:54 pm

I don't know what is going to come out from this and how long it will take but i just hope you two can sort this out in a peaceful and polite way and i also hope the WTU and ZAR will become allies in the future and forget their past
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Post  Apepistan on Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:16 pm

Since I've already proven that the United Kingdoms of Apepistan did not accuse the WTU of sinking the ship and did not propose an embargo against the WTU, I fail to see what else is there to discuss in this "Scottlands vs Apepistan" topic. I don't know in the first place what this discussion is doing in the Security Council.

Aside from lobbying, that is.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:50 pm

The Security Council, acting as an international court of law, asks both Apepistan and Scottlands if both Parties if any still has further arguments nor evidences to present to support their case nor defenses? This notice is effective for two (2) days.
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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:59 pm

I have nothing more to say besides Apepistan admitted the crime already.
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Post  Apepistan on Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:57 am

Scottish Republic wrote:I have nothing more to say besides Apepistan admitted the crime already.

Learn to read. This is getting actually annoying.
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Post  England and Wales on Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:37 am

Honestly your all acting like children
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Post  Apepistan on Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:37 am

Omega Atlantica wrote:Honestly your all acting like children

I honestly think you'd be annoyed too if you had to write everything down 10 times because your debate partner either doesn't care to read it or has trouble understanding what you said.
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