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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:55 pm

WASC QUALIFICATIONS ACT
authored by Scottish Republic

Seeing many nations are quarreling who is more deserving to have a seat in the WASC and give the SC Presidency hard time to decide which should be appointed to the WASC, my country wants to contribute and propose the following rules.


  1. No country can be WASC candidate if they are involve in wars or terrorism or any unpeaceful activity.
  2. No country can be WASC candidate if they have pending cases in the WASC.
  3. No country can be WASC candidate if they violated other countries rights like sovereignty and territory.
  4. No country can be WASC candidate if members of WASC does not approve of them.
  5. No country can be WASC candidate if they do not respect and follow the laws and rules of the region.
  6. No country can be WASC candidate if they do not respect the WASC.
  7. No country can be WASC candidate if they have not yet stayed in the region for one week.


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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting on Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:59 pm

Scottish Republic wrote:WASC QUALIFICATIONS ACT
authored by Scottish Republic

Seeing many nations are quarreling who is more deserving to have a seat in the WASC and give the SC Presidency hard time to decide which should be appointed to the WASC, my country wants to contribute and propose the following rules.


  1. No country can be WASC candidate if they are involve in wars or terrorism or any unpeaceful activity.
  2. No country can be WASC candidate if they have existing cases in the WASC.
  3. No country can be WASC candidate if they violated other countries rights like sovereignty and territory.
  4. No country can be WASC candidate if members of WASC does not approve of them.
  5. No country can be WASC candidate if they are in state of war with another country.
  6. No country can be WASC candidate if they do not respect and follow the laws and rules of the region.
  7. No country can be WASC candidate if they continue not respect the works and the President and the Vice President and the WASC.
  8. No country can be WASC candidate if they have not yet stayed in the region for one day or one week.


This proposal is open for debate for a period of 3 days.
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Re: (Dismissed) WASC Qualifications Act

Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:01 pm

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Post  Serenarea on Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:03 pm

Isn't #5 the same thing as #1? And with #8, which is pretty confusing, I feel candidates should be at least in the region for a month or so.


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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting on Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:07 pm

I believe that #2 should be "Active" cases, not existing. Cases that are resolved will exist forever, and technically this means the person who lodged the case could be considered not fit for a WASC seat under your suggestion.

I also believe that #3 should be removed or have a set 'time' to it, such as "if they violated other countries rights like sovereignty and territory within the month prior to their application." If you set a time to it and give it more explanation, I may be inclined to see it as is.

With #4 you're basically saying that if at least "2" members of the WASC or more disagree with the appointment of a new WASC member that they're unfit to become a WASC member. I feel that this is completely unfair. I suggest that you either come up with a new Idea for #4 or just simply get rid of it.

With #7 you're essentially stating that everyone has to respect what the President or VP says otherwise they're unfit for the WASC. Essentially, should someone disagree with what we say, that could be considered "disrespect". Honestly, I don't think #7 is needed in the first place.

For #8 you need to pick either 1 day or 1 week, personally I'd suggest 3 weeks, so that they're integrated enough and have, at the least, a basic understanding on the politics of this region.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting on Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:09 pm

Serenarea wrote:Isn't #5 the same things as #1? And with #8, which is pretty confusing, I feel candidates should be at least in the region for a month or so.

And as Serenarea stated, it looks like you've got a little bit of a repetitive list going.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:03 pm

Scottish Republic wrote:WASC QUALIFICATIONS ACT
authored by Scottish Republic

Seeing many nations are quarreling who is more deserving to have a seat in the WASC and give the SC Presidency hard time to decide which should be appointed to the WASC, my country wants to contribute and propose the following rules.


  1. No country can be WASC candidate if they are involve in wars or terrorism or any unpeaceful activity.
  2. No country can be WASC candidate if they have existing cases in the WASC.
  3. No country can be WASC candidate if they violated other countries rights like sovereignty and territory.
  4. No country can be WASC candidate if members of WASC does not approve of them.
  5. No country can be WASC candidate if they are in state of war with another country.
  6. No country can be WASC candidate if they do not respect and follow the laws and rules of the region.
  7. No country can be WASC candidate if they continue not respect the works and the President and the Vice President and the WASC.
  8. No country can be WASC candidate if they have not yet stayed in the region for one day or one week.



Eurussia makes its position of support. However, we wish to raise these concerns and hope that they will be addressed by the proponent accordingly.


1) We agree.
2) We propose to change the term 'existing' to 'pending cases' so as to protect those who have been resolved by previous cases.
3) We agree. 
4) We agree. But we propose that SC members shall be required to state their justifications.
5) We agree.
6) We agree.
7) We ask for further clarifications.
8) We agree. But we propose to make it a fixed time such as either one day or one week.
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Post  Kingdom of Ireland on Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:46 pm

I expected more detail
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Post  Shockwave on Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:34 pm

I'm Against until clarifications are made.
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Post  Muchos Estados Unidos on Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:21 am

MEU is in favor
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Post  Shockwave on Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:57 am

Muchos Estados Unidos wrote:MEU is in favor
At this moment your vote does not count.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting on Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:16 pm

Muchos Estados Unidos wrote:MEU is in favor

Under the "WA Secondary Seats Act", your vote is redacted from the final tally.
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Post  Serenarea on Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:39 am

Serenarea ABSTAINS. Clarifications need to be met.
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting on Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:21 am

Until revisions are made that are satisfactory, Scouting is Against.
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Post  Kingdom of Scottlands on Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:26 pm

I made amendments. What can you say now?
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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting on Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:36 pm

A vote is hereby called for two (2) days.
The STATUS OF VOTES are:

* Pending - (4) - Ebsotz, Great Eurussia, New Rhodinia, Snarfia    

* Yes - (2) -  New Korrea,  Scottlands,

* No - (1) - Scouting

* Abstain - (2) - Serenarea, Empire of Russia

**WASC Secondary Seat Holder Votes - (1) - Wirbanskia (NO)


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Post  Kingdom of Ireland on Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:00 pm

Abstain
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Post  New Rhodinia on Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:49 pm

Scottish Republic wrote:

  1. No country can be WASC candidate if they are involve in wars or terrorism or any unpeaceful activity.
  2. No country can be WASC candidate if they have pending cases in the WASC.
  3. No country can be WASC candidate if they violated other countries rights like sovereignty and territory.
  4. No country can be WASC candidate if members of WASC does not approve of them.
  5. No country can be WASC candidate if they do not respect and follow the laws and rules of the region.
  6. No country can be WASC candidate if they do not respect the WASC.
  7. No country can be WASC candidate if they have not yet stayed in the region for one week.


1. I don't think WASC members disapproving of a candidate should exclude that candidate from the running. By that logic, if a nation in the WASC hates everyone, nobody new can apply.

2. Come to think of it, most of these points don't seem to have any time limit. Now I can bet that most nations have done something to infringe on someone else's sovereignty and/or territory, so what this is saying is that all candidates must have a clean track record at all times as well as no strikes in general.

3. The one week requirement, in our opinion, is way too short. Bump it up a couple weeks and throw in more activity and now we're talking.
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Post  Great Eurussia on Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:34 pm

Scottish Republic wrote:WASC QUALIFICATIONS ACT
authored by Scottish Republic

Seeing many nations are quarreling who is more deserving to have a seat in the WASC and give the SC Presidency hard time to decide which should be appointed to the WASC, my country wants to contribute and propose the following rules.


  1. No country can be WASC candidate if they are involve in wars or terrorism or any unpeaceful activity.
  2. No country can be WASC candidate if they have pending cases in the WASC.
  3. No country can be WASC candidate if they violated other countries rights like sovereignty and territory.
  4. No country can be WASC candidate if members of WASC does not approve of them.
  5. No country can be WASC candidate if they do not respect and follow the laws and rules of the region.
  6. No country can be WASC candidate if they do not respect the WASC.
  7. No country can be WASC candidate if they have not yet stayed in the region for one week.



Eurussia abstains.
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Post  Snarfian Federation on Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:06 am

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Post  UnitedStatesOfScouting on Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:28 am

A vote is hereby called for two (2) days.
The STATUS OF VOTES are:

* Pending - (2) - Ebsotz, New Rhodinia,  

* Yes - (2) -  New Korrea,  Scottlands,

* No - (1) - Scouting

* Abstain - (4) - Serenarea, Empire of Russia, Eurussia, Snarfia

**WASC Secondary Seat Holder Votes - (1) - Wirbanskia (NO)

With 2 in Favor, 2 Against, and 4 Abstentions, the "WASC Qualifications Act" is hereby dismissed, with a 25% approval.
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